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Can the PID (General Purpose) not control dedicated heliblades? - GyroByte - 2016-11-08 06:30 PM

I'm trying to build an airship and a helicopter.
I'm using dedicated heliblade spinners to make them hover. They work with ACBs and manual control but PID does nothing with them. I set the PID (General Purpose) to Altitude control and set the stimulus to 50 (and the other parameters) and the vehicle falls down. The dedicated heliblades don't move. Can the PID not use them? It says that it can control upwards facing propellers. Do dedicated heliblades not count as propellers? I know how to set up the PID but dediblades don't react to it. Am I doing something wrong?


RE: Can the PID (General Purpose) not control dedicated heliblades? - ShaadowMaaster - 2016-11-08 07:45 PM

No, unfortunately. You could use Draba's hover script which will use heliblades, jets, ect.


RE: Can the PID (General Purpose) not control dedicated heliblades? - ScottWright - 2016-11-08 08:36 PM

I had the same problem. The built-in PID cannot. I actually prefer the PID I built using the LUA box instead, but I hope that Nick gives the built-in PID block more potential in the future.


RE: Can the PID (General Purpose) not control dedicated heliblades? - Ryusho - 2017-11-08 05:49 AM

Is this -STILL- the case? I was trying to do this myself just now and if so that's really annoying....


RE: Can the PID (General Purpose) not control dedicated heliblades? - Richard Dastardly - 2017-11-08 08:47 AM

It is still the case. The PID block still uses the same wierd function too. Stick to Lua.


RE: Can the PID (General Purpose) not control dedicated heliblades? - Normal69 - 2017-11-08 09:13 AM

On the upside, 4 dediblade colums heiight controlled with ACBs makes your vehicle all-terrainish - raising the nose first when you encounter a hill.
PIDs would try to raise the whole vehicle.


RE: Can the PID (General Purpose) not control dedicated heliblades? - gorice - 2017-11-10 08:20 PM

It's possible to link AI to control imputs manually via ACBs, e.g. 'when [imput = move up] recieved, press [T]'. This works with AI and by extension with AI PIDs. I'm not sure whether it will work with GP PIDs, though.


RE: Can the PID (General Purpose) not control dedicated heliblades? - BioPhoenix - 2017-11-14 06:55 AM

(2017-11-10 08:20 PM)gorice Wrote:  It's possible to link AI to control imputs manually via ACBs, e.g. 'when [imput = move up] recieved, press [T]'. This works with AI and by extension with AI PIDs. I'm not sure whether it will work with GP PIDs, though.

It does but it doesn't give the greatest advantage of PIDs, which is the proportionate analog input. It's all or nothing.